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under 5 minutes is rediculous
Posted by StarForce49_xyi (VIP) 5 Mar 2005 3:15am
    


speed chess isn't much of a real test of skill. I think it is strictly getting used to moving fast so the other tiems out. I agree with other players that testing the skill takes some time. I lose agaisnt the best layers wether its 5 minutes or 10 but at least we have excellent thinking games. I lose to anyone if its a 2 or 3 minute game and isn't even a test of skill but a test of panic ability.



Nah...
Posted by SkyofNicole 7 Mar 2005 4:35pm
    


It's a different kind of game that simply adds the factor of speed to the overall outcome. Some like it hot, some can't handle it.

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Chess games under 5 minutes isn't real chess
Posted by KingUntilDeath 7 Mar 2005 9:20pm
    


Yes, I agree with you Starforce. A chess game that's under 5 minutes changes from a thinking game to a reflex game. I just don't get it. I think twenty-five minutes is optimal.



time
Posted by (VIP) 13 Mar 2005 10:32am
    


so set your table for 25 min



Speed Chess requires different kind of smarts
Posted by webmaster 16 Mar 2005 8:26pm
    


Speed chess was the favorite of one of the greatest chess players of all time, a one time world chess champion M. Tahl.
In addition to his victories in standard snail-speed-thinking chess, Tahl won a great many victories in world speed chess competitions.

Speed chess is, obviously, best suited for those who can think and react fast.
In the days of non-personal remote Internet playing and computers, speed chess (-4 min games and less) is the only form of chess competition that can reasonably assure no external assistance



Speed Chess is Great
Posted by Betty_313 30 Mar 2005 12:44pm
    


i think speed chess is great. obviously i enjoy the gruelling 4 hour chess matches in competitions but on the computer i just want a bit of fun.Skill is a big part in the 1min game and most of the time the better player wins with a checkmate or his opponent resigning.



play the game that suits you
Posted by glt4392 10 Apr 2005 1:04am
    


I agree with the most of the replies. A 2 hour game is great and rewarding but for most lets be real, we just don't have the time to be on for 2-3 hours straight playing chess online. with 5-10 minute games you can stop after one or two. We all have kids, homework, pets, houses, work, etc to take care off that will not allow for playing 10 games every night if they took 1 hour each.
Also, I have set games at 25 minutes and had my butt wipped in 2, but also had a guy who was obviously going to loose take 10 minutes to make one move.
Now, about the technology. With high speed cable, I was part of a forum where often those who had a 25% winning percentage were starting 10-20 minute games with their latest version of chessmaster running in another screen and suddendly getting top ratings. Pleople actually stopped playing.
With that said, there is skill in both speed and regular chess. Can you react to quick moves?, do you know all the 'trick' mate attemps', can you throw that guy off enough to win? And the last post is right, I played some 1 minute games and the game was over in 30 seconds with me running with my tail between my legs.
Bottom line is if you don't like less-than 5 minute games, don't play them. Start a room with whatever you want and attract those who agree with your taste.
enjoy this site!



Always remember this one thing........
Posted by _Nobody_ 26 Apr 2005 3:03pm
    


....Its just a game.



ensure no assistance..
Posted by Rasmus 4 May 2005 5:26am
    


in 5 mins games, time must be used properly to prepare for attacking or defending. so in this 5 mins (or less) games, means that no chess engine will work, that nowadays most chess engines required times to think 7 to 8 steps ahead. I think to ensure that there is no such assistance, 5 mins game can explain that the people playing those time is the real chess player.



speed chess and pushing
Posted by _Fischer 4 May 2005 4:19pm
    


speed chess is really fun to play,when i play at gamecolony,most of times i always play 1 minute games and usually i'm pretty good at it.
So far i had succeeded to have a maximum rating of 2372 and in average i have my rating higher than 2200. But it happens that i loose regurlaly to some players,actualy some of them doesn't even have the rating that i usualy have but still there are capable of wining the games. How can they do it? The answer to that question is quiet simple,some players have a basic strategy for wining which is to 'push' the other player to play without even taking time for thinking. Now,you can imagine what happens after that,the player that 'push' have a psychological control over the other one. I can tell you that this strategy really works.
I have try to use it with some other players and the results are simply astonishing,i win more games than i usualy won and each time i got the other player totaly crushed. But still i have to complain about this attitude,it is not chess but just 'pushing'.



ridiculous, Tal
Posted by kings_indian 5 May 2005 1:12am
    


-2 for spelling.

I'd rather play chess than 'clock'.



Time is everthing
Posted by Renton 5 May 2005 12:55pm
    


Not played 'clock' before but one of the great things about chess is how the game changes dependent on the time allowed to play. Those who think speed chess is a skilless race to the finish line are totally mistaken. You do however have to play quit a lot of chess before you can get anything out of speed chess especially 1 min games. I think in terms of progressing your game longer time spans are essential. However if you are feeling sharp and want to test your knowlege get stuck into a racier game.

I think the key skill in playing a shorter game is knowing when to think about a move and when to act on instinct. You need to know that certian patterns of play will lead to more benificial outcomes. These are things that you can respond to without thinking. However you also need to recognise the value of pausing for a moment to consider options at a crucial stage. This to me is the skill. I also don't think that a decent speed chess player needs to be influenced by another players attempt to beat the clock. I think players who say this are using it as an excuse for losing, Thats not to say it can't mess up your game if you allow yourself to be influenced by it.

In short speed chess is a fun way of testing your knowlege, if you want to improve your game then obviously you need time to think and in this case it's better to play slower games..



well spoken Renton
Posted by _Fischer 5 May 2005 3:03pm
    


yes,you are quite right about most of the things that you've said. But if it has never happend to you to get victim by what i have describe earlier then i totaly understand your point of view. However i have been a victim of players that push you to play too quickly with out thinking. This can happen because some people who have good reflex tends to react more quickly. So,basicaly some players will take advantage of this by playing there moves at a moment that you dont expect them to. I mean,sometimes some players take a pause for few seconds during the game and then suddently at a moment you list expected it they play there moves. Well i can tell you when someone does this,it will happen sometimes that you wont even notice imediatly after, that he had make his move. I think that some players who are quiet good in the 'pushing technic' might understand pretty well what i'm talking about.
And anyway,time is major issue specialy when you are playing 1 minutes games,you have to choose between calculating the moves that you will play and the quickness of your reply. It is quiet difficult to manage these two features of the game at the same time.



you are chicken
Posted by lollus_ruulib.... 7 May 2005 4:18am
    


speed chess a different kind of chess. you must be very fast and you can't be stupid. you must realize your skills very fast. and this is a skill too. not everyone can play for example 1 min chess.



Speedy
Posted by smokeumchess (VIP) 22 Jun 2005 11:32am
    


Speed chess is the main component in playing chess well. Think man, if u are low in time and u have to ponder something up really good. U know what I mean. 2 seconds later u can already think 5 or 10 moves ahead man. You should learn to play speed chess. It helps your chess game out!!



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